Special Re-READ Episode: Showdown at the Bar None

Escape with us into the literary cumulous clouds in this re-read of "Showdown at the Bar None." We're checking in from our hiatus with a delightful episode centered around Bonnie Worth's nostalgic 1990s novella. This book adds layers to our understanding of our favorite ranch teens and was a general hoot to read. We're proudly asking for an 'A' on our book report. Tune in for a fun and heartfelt discussion while we eagerly await our season five return.

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Hiatus and Scholastic Book Club

Teresa 0:00

Hey Homesnakes , we are really sorry about this extended hiatus of Yay Dude . We hope it's coming to an end soon but once the hiatus ends we know we're entering season five and hey Dude ends , so maybe we'll extend it a little longer . In the meantime , we're excited to bring you this mid-hiatus little treat . Jess and I read the novella Showdown at the Bar None , it's very 1990s , very eight-year-old reading level and fantastic , and we got to talk about it together . We hope you enjoy this . We will let you know as soon as we're ready to come back for good . We've got one more mid-hiatus treat for you . We watched Speed together . It was Jess's first time seeing the movie and dare I say , she loved it . Why wouldn't you Prost Graham Yost ? Anyway , enjoy this scholastic treat . Be back again soon . We're not going to do like a full episode on this right , because we can't . Really that would be impossible .

Jess 1:18

It would be impossible . Yeah , the major highlight of my day was reading this book in the sunshine .

Teresa 1:26

Where did you sit outside to read it ? Just at your house ?

Jess 1:29

Yep In the patio on the outside under the magnolia tree .

Teresa 1:36

I love magnolia trees .

Jess 1:38

You got to consume this on an airplane .

Teresa 1:48

I read this on an airplane . I was three deep in the window next to my husband and my child . No , my child sat in the middle seat . I offered him the window , but he wanted the middle and my husband sat on the aisle and I have the duty of having everything under my seat so that I have to get everything out for everyone every two minutes . So I got a little bit interrupted during part of my read but thankfully it was pretty easy to remember and get right back into where I was , not a super complicated book .

Teresa 2:19

And also I've watched most of it in various episodes yeah , it appeared often it was delightful I read it . Should we ?

Jess 2:27

introduce the podcast .

Teresa 2:29

Yeah , let's do . Oh , welcome , welcome , welcome , yeah , welcome to Yay Dude . It's a hey Dude rewatch podcast , but this very special episode is a Hey Dude reread podcast .

Jess 2:49

Yes , Not really a reread . I've never read it before , but no , welcome to the Scholastic Book Club edition of Yay Dude , I'm Teresa and you're .

Teresa 3:00

Jess , correct , and this is Showdown , showdown , and this is Showdown at the Bar None .

Jess 3:11

Do you want me to read the back ?

Teresa 3:13

I would love it if you did yes .

Jess 3:17

So it's a really beautiful back cover . It has a very large H with an Ernst-style cowboy hat .

Teresa 3:27

Ernst-style cowboy hat . That was drawn in MS Paint .

Jess 3:31

Yeah , it's great and the H is the hey . So it says hey , dude , showdown at the Barnum , ted in charge . What could be worse ? He turns into Attila the Hun with a cowboy hat . Can Brad stop him ? And if she does , will she be in charge ? Will there be an all-out war at the Barnum Ranch ? Now the kid cowboy TV comedy is a book . All the wisecracks and adventurers of Nickelodeon's . Hey Dude , all caps are here in Showdown at the Bar . None , all caps , with no commercial interruptions .

Teresa 4:08

You won't want to miss it . That's amazing . I also like the second sentence Ted in Charge . What could be worse is actually not a question , it's just yelling at us .

Jess 4:19

What could be worse ? This was published in 1992 by MTV Network networks . Uh , published by grosset and dumb lap incorporated . Oh , it does have an author bonnie worth .

Teresa 4:37

Oh , where do you see it on the title page ? Oh my gosh , we've been saying author nobody but Bonnie , let's look her up . Let's look her up real quick . Yeah , because I feel really bad now . I called her nebulous last week , oh my gosh . Alright , bonnie Worth , the author , penguin , random House . Countless books for young readers . Can I tell you this real quick ? Yeah , count them . Okay , they're countless , I can't do it . Okay . Bonnie Worth is the author of countless books for young readers , among them 18 of the Cat in the Hat's Learning Library books , including oh Say , can you Say Dinosaur , Dinosaur , can you say it ?

Teresa 5:39

Dinosaur , dinosaur can you say it dinosaursei ? Can you dinosaur ? If I ran the rainforest , Osei , can you seed , which is the winner of the 2003 Ohio Farm Bureau Award , and hark a shark ? And if I ran a horse , show what ? And if you never want to miss a new book by Bonnie Wirth or get personalized recommendations for top trending books and more , you can sign up on Penguin Random House . Look at her . She's done some good stuff for kids , including this one . I would have liked this book when I was nine .

Jess 6:22

You might know her as Kate Climo K-L-I-M-O . That was Bonnie Worth is one of Kate Climo's pen names . No way . For years , kate was president and publisher of Random House Children's Books and the one and only home of Dr Seuss , so that's why . So okay , then it tells you Dr Seuss' stories .

Teresa 6:56

Ooh , she did . Looking for Bigfoot , a step four book , step Into Reading . We got that one from the library once Sam was on a kick where he really liked Bigfoot . She did a full house Same to you duck face . It's called a full house novella . Another one Way to Go Chipmunk Cheeks is also a full house book . We might need to do that . Yeah , that might . There's the hey Dude book , another full house book called kiss a frog , princess , oh jessica . She did a couple of family matters novellas , one called have no fear , the irk man is here and one called lean mean urkel machine .

Jess 7:42

Oh I like I like it . Under Kate Clemo she wrote the Dragon Keepers and the Dog Diaries and the Centuriad for Young Adults . Okay , and as of whenever this bio on Goodreads was published , her newest book was the Enchanted Dress Shop . Ooh , that sounds kind of fun , which was optioned for the screen . That's cool .

Teresa 8:12

Huh , well , I'm really happy to know about that she's a real person and not a nebula . I know I'm sorry , I called you a cumulus cloud . It's something I always think of when . I hear nebulus . Oh , I mean , that's what being nebulus looks like .

Jess 8:31

I think it looks like a nebula , frankly .

Teresa 8:36

That would make more sense than a cumulus cloud . My favorite thing , before we get into the meat of this one , is the last page , this page that I really want to just try it . I want to send this in and see if anything happens . It's an order form .

Jess 8:54

I am so intrigued by don't just sit there . 50 ways to have a Nickelodeon day . Yes , Make your own .

Teresa 9:03

There's also make your own videos , commercials , radio shows , special effects and more . We could get some tips . Yes , make your own . There's also make your own videos , commercials , radio shows , special effects and more .

Jess 9:07

We could get some tips yeah .

Teresa 9:10

Especially on special effects . And then there's Think Fast , which is Nickelodeon's brain bending games and puzzles . You know I love puzzles .

Jess 9:18

And this one has jokes so bad they're good in a section called the Grown Zone .

Teresa 9:25

And it has Gnarlicious skateboard . Gnarlicious , gnarlicious . You're right , gnarlicious skateboard , maze and and skateboard is spelled with an eight . Yeah , yeah . So you know who's into that is buddy I . That's what I was thinking .

Jess 9:43

That's exactly what I was thinking and I love how it says tune into them all , as though that's what you do to a book .

Teresa 9:51

You know what , though , like I would be more likely to read more books if I thought it was a tv show yeah still like to this day . I I hear that . Do you want to try sending this in and see what happens ? We can make a photocopy , because I don't want to rip this out Was the idea that you would rip out the last page of the book , which has words on it , which has words on the other side . Huh , and then just write your mom's Visa card number on it .

Jess 10:23

Weird . Yeah , these books were $3.adian or 295 usd .

Teresa 10:32

Shipping and handling was 125 for one book and 50 cents each for each additional one I love this kind of step back into the past where it's like in my hot little hands . It's not just watching it , it is , it is holding it do you remember ?

Jess 10:47

we just took a whiff .

Teresa 10:50

Yeah , this doesn't smell like old library book , this smells like old basement . Does yours ?

Jess 10:57

when I first got it it smelled like um whatever book warehouse that had been stored in . I love the idea . Chip Simon , the cover artist .

Teresa 11:07

Yes , but I also think you're ready to tell me about Chip Simon , but I also love oh . I'm not Okay . Two things One , imagining all the places this book has been before it came to my household and is now on display on our little credenza With your choral stick stick .

Jess 11:26

Isn't that where that was ?

Teresa 11:28

yes , love it . Uh , so I love thinking about that older , hey dude whose little hands have held this book and then whose little teeth got into mine like oh , somebody bit it like the middle is all bitten that's great .

Jess 11:49

We should get somebody to dust this for fingerprints for me and we could run it through a fist or whatever but also , oh my god , don't you wish we had had these and been at 90s con and been able to get them signed . Holy that have been a dream , yes .

Teresa 12:06

And then the second thing I was going to ask you do you remember this little uh logo ?

Jess 12:11

no , I don't think I ever encountered a nickelodeon book before , and the nickelodeon books logo is fly , it is something else it is .

Teresa 12:21

I've never seen , I don recall this . It is like a big beaked bird with a hat backwards and book for wings and then some rad ass tennis shoes .

Jess 12:34

Yeah . And Nickelodeon emblazoned over the wing . Oh , of course .

Teresa 12:40

And of course , it's orange Duh . We'll have to put that on the Instagram . Well , what do you want to say here on ?

Jess 12:51

this very special episode .

Teresa 12:53

The cover is cute , that's a cute picture .

Jess 12:56

The cover is so cute . I wanted to start with Brad's description of Ted on page 10 . Can I read that ?

Teresa 13:03

to you yes , but are we going to try to do this in order , because there was like a pretty big bomb dropped really early on . I mean that is the fourth page . Yeah , can I tell you about the second page ?

Jess 13:19

Yeah .

Teresa 13:20

Page eight at the bottom , but it's the second page . Melody Hansen had been working at the ranch since she was 13 years old . She was a swimming instructor and lifeguard At 13 ?

Jess 13:43

at 13 . Now , I took that as she was probably a junior buckaroo type back then who was in charge of , like you know , washing a dish , like I was when I was 13 at a summer camp , and so that's what I had imagined , and she graduated to lifeguard god , I sure hope so .

Teresa 13:57

I don't want a 13 year old lifeguard , but I will . I mean it's believable , because not only is it like at that point it would have been what like 1985 or six , and currently , to this day , where I used to live my former state of Iowa , 14-year-olds are the lifeguards , 14 . They're in middle school and they're the ones in charge of saving your life . So I could believe it . I guess that's true , but she's coming from across the country for the entire summer to lifeguard at 13, . Even if she was just washing dishes , yeah , it's like pretty intense . Anyway , I wonder how she got the job . Yeah , yeah , curious . All right , you tell me your thing . I just wanted to point that out because I thought that was . I was jaw on the floor of the airplane at that point .

Cactus-Themed Party and Favorite Horse

Jess 14:55

This book is written from Brad's POV in large part .

Teresa 15:01

Mm-hmm .

Jess 15:03

And it says she says of Ted oh my God , why are words so hard ?

Teresa 15:08

It's a really hard book .

Jess 15:10

It's a really hard book . Here on page 10 , it says Ted looks surprised . What is the world coming to ? I try to say something nice and all I get is a slap in the face . Ted McGriff was cute and he knew it . That summer Mr Ernst had given him the title of quote senior staff . No one knew exactly what that meant . Ted thought it meant he could boss around the other kids and this did wonders for his ego . But despite his large ego , ted wasn't all that bad . Actually . Wonders for his ego . But despite his large ego , ted wasn't all that bad . Actually he could be a very good friend and a hard worker . His intentions were usually good , but sometimes his scheming went a little overboard . Brad thought , quote senior staff just meant ted was a jerk , but he was cute .

Teresa 15:53

I thought that was actually good job . Bonnie . Like I thought that was a good job Bonnie . Like I thought that was a really good description and that's kind of how I've been describing him is like you know , they give him a pass because it's 10 and they know deep down he's kind of a good guy . He can do a good job if he tries , and he was cute .

Jess 16:13

You know how I've been drawing parallels to Jake Peralta of Brooklyn Nine-Nine , which I'm completely back into 100% , by the way .

Teresa 16:20

because of that , I love it .

Jess 16:24

In the last episode that I watched , he says of himself that he's the class clown slash bad boy with a heart of gold , gold , and I feel like that's the name of this character , this stereotype , this manny picks a manic picks a dream girl of a young man like the class clown slash bad boy with a heart of gold I am such a sucker for that kind of guy and gal .

Teresa 16:56

I yeah , it's just like one of my favorite types of people . I just and when I was teaching the students who were like that and just like other kids would be like he's your favorite . I would just be like yeah , kind of . I mean , yeah , you should be yours too , he's the funniest one .

Jess 17:15

Um it I I'm glad to have the words for whatever the it , whatever that is that that ?

Teresa 17:23

factor yeah they .

Jess 17:26

There were a couple of schemes that mr ernst had tried out that the kids are talking about that I really liked . Um , uh , one of them was a he had tried out a snow dome , which is not something I've ever I've . Have you ever heard snow dome instead of snow globe ?

Teresa 17:45

no , that one wasn't that's regional , or I do too . I that's that .

Jess 17:50

One took me a minute also and the other scheme of mysteries was um , he threw a party that that had the theme of come as your favorite cactus . I love that and I wanted to ask you which cactus you would go as uh , of all the kinds that I know , which is so many yeah uh , I mean's going to come as a saguaro , everybody's going to come as a saguaro ?

Teresa 18:25

Yeah , I also know prickly pear , is that one ? Yeah , okay , that one I know is delicious , so that could be kind of fun . And then the other one I know is that's it ? Oh , that'd be one of those two , but I think I would have to go prickly pear . How about you ? Do you know more than two ?

Jess 18:50

yeah , I know san pedro , oh um , that's one that you can uh .

Teresa 18:59

Is that the one that's just like A dome ?

Jess 19:02

Yeah , and also Is an ingredient , or maybe you could just take it . It has psychedelic affiliations .

Teresa 19:11

Ooh it knows a guy .

Jess 19:14

It knows a guy , but I think that would be a fun one . Like to be a trippy cactus Like . I think I could get into that .

Teresa 19:23

You go as cactus drug and I'll go as cactus drink and there you go . Yeah , I love it Because we know Prickly Pear makes a good margarita .

Jess 19:35

It's in the simple syrup , you guys Totally simple , you guys Totally simple but so complex .

Teresa 19:41

Here I thought this was great , right after that line about your favorite cactus . When they said Mr Ernst has some of the dippiest ideas , said Melody , yeah , she really likes to say dippy .

Jess 19:55

That is one of her catchphrases .

Teresa 19:57

We know from this that buddy is 12 , so that was good to to have confirmed and I also like that . Now I feel comfortable calling it the lodge . They called it the lodge in the book , yeah that was a relief I was happy to .

Jess 20:19

Can I ?

Teresa 20:20

tell you my least favorite part of the book . Yeah , there was a point now I don't know where it is because I didn't take notes or , you know , put post-its in here but they talked about the yankees . I don't know if it's a yankees hat or going to yankeeses game . First episode Buddy comes in wearing a Mets hat . So , bonnie , continuity . There was a continuity issue there , bonnie , so way to go . But that was my only qualm with the book .

Jess 20:56

Yeah , it was great . I have another couple of notes . Okay , I liked that Brad acknowledged that Lucy is firm and no nonsense and so she's handy to have around with a Ted on the picture Because you know there's a grown-up . But then this book centers around lucy not being there and there being this horrible power struggle between uh , ted and brad . Um , as it , what's the episode ?

Teresa 21:32

that this is based on . Uh , inmates were in the asylum . Yeah , that's one . I just you made me remember something , though they gave us a hint at how old Lucy is . Yeah , which is not very old .

Jess 21:47

No um 28? .

Teresa 21:50

Something like that .

Jess 21:51

I think it's on page 20 .

Teresa 21:53

She's like 10 years older than Brad or something . Yeah , so maybe 27 . Yeah , I don't think so . You know , like I think Deb Kalman's a beautiful woman , but I don't look at her in that show and think that's a 27-year-old .

Jess 22:12

No , she says in this book she liked both of them , although she didn't have much in common with either , referring to Melody and Lucy . Lucy was 10 years or so older than the kids , with blonde hair and a deeply tanned face . She had a firm , known-nonsense way about her that Brad knew would come in handy with Ted around . This is in the flashback to Brad's first day .

Teresa 22:34

Yes , so it is based on inmates run the asylum , but they do flashback to the first day . Yes , so it is based on inmates run the asylum , but they do flash back to the first day .

Jess 22:42

I liked this little , this thing . Ted calls Brad out for wearing dude duds and I I liked that acknowledgement of the origin of the word dude , like they know from who's coming to the dude ranch , because they're gonna be the wealthy people who want to come to play . And he thinks brad's clothes are fake fake .

Teresa 23:10

They're not . They , yeah , they're dude duds . I did like that , forgot about that . The other thing I liked is that they kept the storyline about buddy doing his dad thing , like where he's dropping the computer paper and oh no , I'm doomed .

Teresa 23:26

I say yeah I think if you are nine and you're trying to read a chapter book maybe you haven't done it in a long time or this is your first one , or whatever it would be nice as a as an emerging reader , to be able to picture the show like I actually see that , like the educator in me is like oh , this is a really good strategy for helping kids learn to read and have a little bit more reading stamina is they can follow along with a you know 22 minute episode that they know , yeah , I , as I go through it .

Teresa 24:06

When I was reading it I was like , okay , so I'm just watching the reading the episode , but this is scholastic , which I should . I should mention . I believe that's where Lisa Malama used to work before she came to Nickelodeon . I think she worked at Scholastic . So that's a really nice little crossover , like Scholastic does amazing things for literacy . And I'm just like , as I was thinking about this , heck , yeah , I would have read those Full House books and probably I don't think I would have done the Family Matters one I would have if it wasn't just about Urkel .

Jess 24:41

Yeah , that guy was too much . Family Matters was not my jam . No , I know a few listeners will be happy to know that canonically in this book , brad's favorite horse is named Duchess and she's a Palomino . Yeah , I don't know that the television show has ever addressed her favorite horse , aside from , you know , the gift horse .

Teresa 25:08

Don't look that one in the mouth . Don't do it .

Jess 25:12

Charisma .

Teresa 25:13

Charisma , but that horse never really belonged to her .

Jess 25:18

It belonged to Bobby and Trot At the end of the day , that's where they were destined to be . Oh , Brad and Ted get lost on a trail ride . That's new . Yes , that was a plot change .

Jess 25:33

I really liked that little adventure . He and Brad are assigned to go on a hike together , and or not , on a ride together , with a bunch of human beings on their horses . They get lost because Ted is like , hey , let's look at this cave . And he makes up a story about there being old lady desert pirates . It frankly sounds like a great spinoff . I'm in , and then brad is like I can make shit up too , and so she takes everybody over to canyon and says there's a secret Air Force base there and we're on page 40 and 41 . If you want to follow along , I do . He goes into it , though , about the desert pirates . They were a gang of old lady thieves led by the notorious Myrtle Scoggins , known by her nickname Blue Hair . They rode all over the West in a covered , covered wagon , robbing and terrorizing any pioneers they came across .

Teresa 26:40

They hid out in this very cavern and some people say their treasure is hidden inside I forgot about this whole part where they get lost in the desert on a trail ride . That could have been really bad yeah , danny comes to the rescue . I like though that they were just like . Let's just pretend I mean the , fake it till you make it thing I get it .

Teresa 27:04

I do that a lot , but I hate it so much I'm done doing it forever Should you really fake it till you make it when you're lost in the desert , like with real grown-ups , with real grown-ups , with real grown-ups . It's not good . No , they put these kids in some situations that it's like whose fault is it ?

Jess 27:29

really it's , it's probably the guy who put the kids in charge of taking people out deep into the desert yeah , yeah , mr ernst is like his decision to use a coin flip to decide whether either of these dum-dums is going to be in charge , when clearly melody and danny are the responsible ones . Um , like who like ? Prove it over the course of .

Teresa 28:00

There is no reason that I can think of to send anyone other than Danny to do anything . Basically , yeah , yeah . They even say at the beginning of the book like Danny's as good on a horse as Brad is . Like , send Brad and Danny , why are ?

Jess 28:20

you sending Ted and also put Danny in charge of the ranch while you're gone .

Teresa 28:26

Thank you , and if Melody has been there since she's 13 years , old and she gets up every morning at five anyway , like what's Brad have to do with this ? I my only guess is that and I think this is true that Brad is a little bit older . Can I think that that's part of an episode when she's like you're irresponsible ? Melody the bunkmate battle ? I think she indicates that she's like a year older . That's the only thing I can think of . Yeah , and that it's a better plot point to have these two nemeses Is nemeses .

Jess 29:09

I watch this really interesting piece by do you know Natalie Wynn of Contra of contra points ? Nope , I think . On her little bio it says she's a philosopher or former philosopher and youtuber . Um , she is an incredibly insightful and very funny human being . Okay , who did this episode called on twilight and it was all about the dynamics between men and women and how they play out . And I was just reading this book with her words in my brain was really interesting about how this , because I still just I'm so annoyed with Ted all the time and I do not understand the will they won't they , because she is , I mean , hormone alert is there any other reason to be in it .

Jess 30:14

To be like to Ted , to mess with Ted other than hormone . So I don't know To be in it . To be like To Ted yes , to mess with Ted other than hormones . So I don't know .

Teresa 30:22

He has a quality that we have discussed at length and , yes , he has hormone alert . I mean , come on , they're teenagers At this point , in my opinion , the cutest boy on the ranch

Joe Torres' Pen Name Mystery

Teresa 30:37

Does he stay ? The cutest boy on the ranch ? I don't know , they're all a good-looking crew .

Jess 30:44

Yeah , it's true .

Teresa 30:47

And .

Jess 30:47

Danny would be good to you . I don't know , that's it . You're not into that .

Teresa 30:52

If he would have you even though , when you're 17 , you're not into that . That's not what you're looking for . You're looking for the jess , come on . You're looking for the class clown bad boy with a heart of gold .

Jess 31:02

That's what you're looking for I , um , I hear that and I hear that they're . That's what's so exciting about the will they won't , they of them ?

Teresa 31:18

I'm ready for you to get on board the ted , ted and brad the bread train ah , yes , the bread train it's just that I really , even then you wouldn't have been into this guy when you were a teen . Wouldn't have been into this guy when you were a teen .

Jess 31:37

I don't , I just don't see it working out for them .

Teresa 31:41

Well , we'll see what happens in the reboot , Jess , because I absolutely see it working out for them and I'm super excited to see their children work on the ranch as they grow up . I 100% am team bread . They are going to end up together forever . You're wrong . You have to like 17 year old boys .

Jess 32:06

I mean it's better than fucking Kyle .

Teresa 32:07

Yeah , 17 year old boys . I don't want to make excuses for them , like they should still be decent human beings , but they're also doofuses and it's fine . And they don't necessarily stay doofuses and I don't like the whole , like well , you know , just you got to give him a pass because it takes him longer to mature . I'm not saying give him a pass , but also understand . It's developmentally normal that he's a doofus . Yes , so and there's a lot of doofy girls out there too . She's a total doofus in this book .

Teresa 32:51

She sure is Like she should know better than to just ride off into the middle of the desert . I mean , come on , Brad .

Jess 32:59

One final thing I'd like to point out , or not even point out but ask about . How do I talk about this ? It's just that there are two spaces after a period in all of this book long , and I think it kind of bums me out that there's not that much room anymore in our lives like I liked having two spaces .

Teresa 33:24

Do you think this was done on a typewriter ? Huh , two spaces used to be kind of important because otherwise the little flappy flapper would get jammed .

Jess 33:35

Right , but also we were required to use two spaces all throughout our education .

Teresa 33:42

I know it's really dumb .

Jess 33:44

Did we stop in ?

Teresa 33:44

college . I don't know when I stopped , but now I still see people do it sometimes and I'm like what happened to you ? Yeah , how did you become like ?

Jess 33:54

this . I think it's just that they're over 50 I .

Teresa 33:59

I mean , I've seen people younger than me do it . What , how ?

Jess 34:02

did they learn ? I don't know , huh I mean I I like this is I don't read books very often because I have pretty severe add and have a really difficult time concentrating on a thing , but I think that this was exactly my level of reading I know that's how I felt the spaciousness of this book , um , and the big type like this may be what is required for me the kerning .

Teresa 34:35

The kerning , I think , is what that's called was very , very pleasing and I would agree . I liked the size of it , the words and the thickness of the book and I liked that I was able to do it in half an hour . Yep , that's how I need books to be consumed .

Jess 34:54

That's how I need books to be consumed . I also really like a horseshoe chapter number heading and also the drop cap is really lovely and old-timey Western saloon font .

Teresa 35:09

Yeah , it's really cool . Should we say how things turn out ? If you didn't watch or listen and follow along with us on Inmates Run the Asylum , you might want to go back and check that one out . I think what did we say was the first episode of season four .

Jess 35:25

No , of season three .

Teresa 35:27

Yeah , Season three . Yeah , it was somewhere in season three . You can watch that one . You basically get the gist of this book , but essentially it turns out then that's it so end of book .

Jess 35:49

Yep , in conclusion , I believe that I should get an A for this book report ah , yes , you , you do you get an A , thank you , you get an A for this book report . Ah , yes , you do you get an A , thank you . You get an A also . Thank you , I mean , I've got . There are two new places where Joturas might be , which are clearly the cave and the canyon . Mm-hmm . Former old lady , bad girls club . Mm-hmm .

Teresa 36:15

Ghosts town or Air Force secret base , absolutely , I think those are two very obvious places . The other thing , and I only just thought of this today when you did your research there on the fly fly research about Bonnie Worth and her pen name Her pen name is Bonnie Worth , right , what if Joe Torres is his pen name ? Oh , and that this whole time he's actually back being his regular self , which is maybe like the guy who's writing cool books , like don't just sit there . 50 Ways to have a Nickelodeon Day .

Jess 37:03

Interesting .

Teresa 37:05

You know , Interesting . Okay , or whichever one makes more sense . Maybe Joe Torres is his real name and he has a pen name now . I don't know . I like the idea of Joe Torres with his real name and he has a pen name now . I don't know . I like the idea of Joe Torres with his pen name .

Jess 37:20

Yeah that he decided to take on this identity for the purposes of the show , so he could go back to real life afterward . Yes , I mean , that's a good plan . It's not bad If he never wanted to continue with acting after , like if he knew this was a limited duration engagement .

Teresa 37:38

Yeah , I wonder what he I mean he got cast as a teen in Tucson . I wonder what he thought If it was just yeah , I'll do this for a minute and see , or if he had intentions to stick with it and then changed his mind . God , I really . Joe Torres , if you're listening , we really would like to talk to you .

Jess 38:02

Yeah , true , whatever your real name is .

Teresa 38:07

Whatever your real name is .

Jess 38:10

We'll respect all things you put forward , we'll call you whatever name you would like us to , and we'll buy you a belt , buckle , mm-hmm , whatever you need . We love you , Joe Torres .

Teresa 38:23

We love you . Joe Torres , we hope you're well . Yes , there was a trough in this book , if I recall correctly . Right , Didn't they throw ?

Jess 38:32

Ted in the trough ? No , we decided that the lake is not a trough .

Teresa 38:36

No , but when they're flashbacking to the first day , am I misremembering ?

Jess 38:44

No , that's the mud puddle that he .

Teresa 38:47

Yeah , but don't they break in his clothes ?

Jess 38:50

I don't think they do that in the book , but that could have been in one of the pages that I was not paying attention to .

Teresa 38:57

I thought that we got a trough incident . I'm going to go back and then we can correct it in the corrections trough during season five . Because my question to you if there and if there is one , do we get to count that ?

Jess 39:15

Oh uh , oh well . I don't think there is one . Do we get to count that ? Oh uh , oh well . I don't think there is . Yeah , he raised one filthy hand toward brad and said sweetly , will you help me up ? Brad was touched . Ted was admitting that he needed her help . She reached out to help him , but instead of letting her pull him up , ted yanked her into the mud puddle with him all right .

Teresa 39:34

Well , well , maybe not , so I guess no trough incidents , if I were to find one in there , would you let me count it ?

Jess 39:42

No , that's just what my gut says . Alright , Joe Torres hope you're well .

Teresa 39:50

No , troughs . How many horseshoes do you give this book ? Yeah , that's the question . How many horseshoes are actually in this book ? Yeah , that's the question . How many horseshoes are actually in this book ? Oh , every chapter starts with a horseshoe , and there are 13 chapters , 13 chapters , so does it get 13 ?

Jess 40:06

Clearly this book is a 13 out of 13 . Agreed Horseshoe book , yep . And that's not even counting the one on the cover . It's only the 13 on the inside that's true .

Teresa 40:22

And then there's one on the title page , so in theory it's 15 horseshoe book .

Jess 40:29

It only gets 13 out of 15 , though in my opinion , okay , yeah , it gets .

Teresa 40:36

It gets all 13 definitely gets all 13 , no more than that . Okay , 13 , 26 total . Great job book . Great job book . Great job . Bonnie worth . Sorry we called you nebulous . Um , I really appreciate the work that you and your pals at Penguin and Scholastic and wherever you have worked do to get young children reading and literate . My son is like reading now . He just came behind me the other day and like read my team's chat at work . Whoa , I know it's like dude , I can't text about you now .

Jess 41:20

Now you're going to read it . I don't have a secret language anymore called being literate .

Teresa 41:27

I know Dang Many props to all the folks out there who get kids reading .

Jess 41:34

Well , thanks for coming to our mid-season episode . We hope you enjoyed and we'll catch you in season five , which will be forthcoming when we can , yes .

Teresa 41:51

All right . Well , that's all I got . Oh , and my battery thing just came on . That's perfect timing .

Jess 41:55

Oh , I love you so much and I really love doing our show and we'll do what's all I got . Oh , and my battery thing just came on . That's perfect timing .

Teresa 42:04

Oh , I love you so much and I really love doing our show and we'll do season one , episode five . Nope , you know what I mean I do . Okay , all right , love you . Bye for now . Bye for now , thank you .